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i'm going to show you the math and then talk with the guy who did that math for governor romney. that's coming up. pella universis businesses are trying to come back from rough economic times. employees are being forced to do more with less. and the need for capable leaders is greater than ever. when you see these problems do you take a step back, or do you want to dive right in? with a degree in business from capella university, you'll have the knowledge to go further in your career than you ever thought possible. let's get started at capella.edu and these come together, one thing you can depend on is that these will come together. delicious and wholesome. some combinations were just meant to be. tomato soup from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. j.d. power and associates has ranked quicken loans "highest in customer satisfaction in the nation." call or go to quickenloans.com to discover for yourself, why we're engineered to amaze. >>> what candidate would want an endorsement from the actor who stard in a film called "the jerk"? and jack welch is not backing away from a
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what the romney campaign talk abouts is maintaining. anybody can get insurance if they've had a previous -- or pre-existing condition as long as they've maintained continuous coverage, meaning they've had insurance constantly moving from job to job. that's not the case for a lot of people. for those people, the pre-existing condition protection might not be there or it might be, but it might be very expensive. that's one of the things the president said is a big part of his health care reform plan, making sure it's not to expensive that people can't afford it. if they -- in the romney plan, it's possible that you would be able to get it no matter what, but it would be so expensive that it would be cost prohibitive. >> governor romney also brought up the issue of out of work college grads. listen to what he said. >> what we're seeing right now is, in my view, a trickle down government approach which has government thinking it can do a better job than free people pursuing their dreams. it's not working. the truth is that 50% of college gr
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we are talking the vision of a romney, post recovery. i wanted to hear your thoughts on that. >> first of all, he wants to move back closer to full employment with good paying jobs. he knows that starts with education. here in massachusetts, massachusetts became number one under romney's leadership. they can make a lot more money, more than double the $9 an hour you are talking about. retail clerks won't make that much money. the difference is education. you are going to see a tremendous effort on education. it will not be -- the department of education and beaurocracy in washington giving incentives to the state to do the right thing for their citizens. >> i actually have, that story you told about education and employment is one that i have -- i'm very skeptical of but it's the identical story barack obama campaign tells about employment. it's exactly, you can go back through the speeches and talk romney's praise for the race to the top. the story that i think both campaigns are telling about a vision for a post recovery economy is one
we are talking the vision of a romney, post recovery. i wanted to hear your thoughts on that. >> first of all, he wants to move back closer to full employment with good paying jobs. he knows that starts with education. here in massachusetts, massachusetts became number one under romney's leadership. they can make a lot more money, more than double the $9 an hour you are talking about. retail clerks won't make that much money. the difference is education. you are going to see a tremendous...
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romney. let's talk about that now. your jobs plan. let's do it. let's get right to our panel. here in new york msnbc political analyst david corn, author of the new book "47%", richard walls, one of my many bosses and in washington, karen finney. richard, i have to put this to you. romney says he will create 12 million jobs by cutting taxes across the board by 20% -- >> he's not going to cut taxes. >> hang on, which economists said cal cates to about $5 trillion but romney now says he won't cut taxes at 20% across the board and it won't accumulate $5 trillion in that sense. so is romney a presidential candidate or a ventriloquist? >> well, he's certainly a great debater with himself, right? because that would be a very interesting argument, the guy who promises tax cuts but says there are no tax cuts. a guy who says we shouldn't be having mission creep in libya but wants mission creep in syria. he's been on all sides of the issues. >> that's just in the last week. >> the president needs to just say these things, it's not obvious to people watching on tv. when you're in a debat
romney. let's talk about that now. your jobs plan. let's do it. let's get right to our panel. here in new york msnbc political analyst david corn, author of the new book "47%", richard walls, one of my many bosses and in washington, karen finney. richard, i have to put this to you. romney says he will create 12 million jobs by cutting taxes across the board by 20% -- >> he's not going to cut taxes. >> hang on, which economists said cal cates to about $5 trillion but romney...
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romney talked about the need for new leadership and bold leadership to bring a resolution to the israel/palestine situation. when the cameras were not rolling a few months ago when millions weren't listening or watching, romney had a different take on the exact same subject. i'd like to play that right now. >> these are problems that are very hard to solve. i look at the policy for political purposes committed to the destruction and elimination of israel, and he's throwing the issues. i say there's just to way. what you do is you move things along the best wake you can, you hope for a degree of stability but you recognize it's going to remain unsolved. >> so i'm sorry. it gets hard to take this stuff seriously at a certain point with when the guy gives a major foreign policy speech and bash obama for not bringing resolution to this program as president when he has gone in front of a group of people and basically said the best you could do as president is kick the can down the road. i have a hard time taking that seriously. >> unfortunately, he can't say that in the speech. that would ha
romney talked about the need for new leadership and bold leadership to bring a resolution to the israel/palestine situation. when the cameras were not rolling a few months ago when millions weren't listening or watching, romney had a different take on the exact same subject. i'd like to play that right now. >> these are problems that are very hard to solve. i look at the policy for political purposes committed to the destruction and elimination of israel, and he's throwing the issues. i...
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we talk to the staff and we began talking to the romney staff six months ago in april and they were very encouraging why, yes, we would want to take part of this it's a tradition and it has become one. and then something happened. we don't know what. but all of a sudden it was he can't fit it into his schedule. and that's all they would ever say. he cannot fit it into his schedule. it takes 30 minutes. >> does the romney campaign know the precedent here of how it's a tradition that candidates have been doing for a long time? >> well, yes. we've spoken to them many times and exchanged a number of e-mails. i have to correct you. sorry. one factual error and i'm afraid that it got printed yesterday and it got spread around and it is wrong. kids did not pick al gore in 2000. kids voted for george bush in 2000. the one where they missed in the last -- this started in 1988, actually. and they picked george bush, senior. the one they got wrong was 2004. kids picked kerry, which is interesting, because that's the only other time we had a candidate just outright say no, i won't do it. >> so it's
we talk to the staff and we began talking to the romney staff six months ago in april and they were very encouraging why, yes, we would want to take part of this it's a tradition and it has become one. and then something happened. we don't know what. but all of a sudden it was he can't fit it into his schedule. and that's all they would ever say. he cannot fit it into his schedule. it takes 30 minutes. >> does the romney campaign know the precedent here of how it's a tradition that...
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. >> let's listen to joe biden talking about romney's 47%. >> these are the folks who talk about 47% of the american people being unwilling to take responsibility. 82% of them pay their payroll taxes and other taxes and at an effective rate higher than romney pays his taxes. over 10% of them are senior citizens on social security. the rest are disabled vets and veterans and military personnel fighting now. that's the 47%. the 47%, this nation depends on to build this country. folks, it's about time governor romney takes some responsibility. [ cheers and applause ] take some responsibility to help the american people, the middle class. instead of lining up to sign a pledge to a guy named grover in order kwis. >> ezra, i have to say for me one of my favorite moments in the debate was with him pointing out the effective rate romney pays compared to what other people in the real world pay. i'm not sure how many people jumped on that a as their favorite moment but. >> you and me, lawrence. >> but biden is finding more effective ways of isolating that romney tax return 14% number. >> it wa
. >> let's listen to joe biden talking about romney's 47%. >> these are the folks who talk about 47% of the american people being unwilling to take responsibility. 82% of them pay their payroll taxes and other taxes and at an effective rate higher than romney pays his taxes. over 10% of them are senior citizens on social security. the rest are disabled vets and veterans and military personnel fighting now. that's the 47%. the 47%, this nation depends on to build this country. folks,...
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romney can't really talk about his mormonism because that was the family secret. that's fascinating to me. we wonder why is romney so careful about what people call the hidden man and a lot of people said that's why. >> you also look into president obama's childhood, which is described as unsettling. >> feel about him in 2008, this same film, the choice x about him them. the deep er we dug into indonesia, into an 18-year-old mom who basically raised obama -- he doesn't speak the language. he's black. black is not good in independon. by 10, he's really on his own, living with his two white grandparents. >> it's hard to really get your arms around that. did he love his grandmother? z >> oh, yes. attachment was there. was there resentment? because a lot of kids get sent to their grandparents. i'm reading pete townsend's biography. >> the thing that comes out of the film tomorrow night, grandfather, alcoholic. grandmother, one of those alcoholics who comes home after work as a vice president at the local bank and herself drinks a lot. they love him. he loves them. but
romney can't really talk about his mormonism because that was the family secret. that's fascinating to me. we wonder why is romney so careful about what people call the hidden man and a lot of people said that's why. >> you also look into president obama's childhood, which is described as unsettling. >> feel about him in 2008, this same film, the choice x about him them. the deep er we dug into indonesia, into an 18-year-old mom who basically raised obama -- he doesn't speak the...
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let's watch. >> one thing president obama, why was he letting governor romney talk? always be interrupting? a point to make up for it by screaming at people. that's how you win a debate. >> chris, i don't know about that. >> you're wrong. the debate is over. i win. >> nia, you're on this program all the time. come on, is that me? >> you know, you have never interrupted someone, certainly never have interrupted me. i have to give props to jason sudden dak kiss. he can play biden, you, and romney. he's so funny, over the top, playing chris matthews in the yeller. >> you're debating how i answer this question? >> maybe. >> george clooney, that was an outrage. i cannot believe that they would do that to you. i didn't know it was you. >> it's all fun. it's not true but it's all fun. lizz, your thoughts, will joe biden be the guy that is played by sudakis on "saturday night live"? >> i think that's exactly right and i also think paul ryan and with the abs and the p90x and they are going to -- i bet you 10 bucks there's a skit with paul ryan without a shirt on. >> thank you
let's watch. >> one thing president obama, why was he letting governor romney talk? always be interrupting? a point to make up for it by screaming at people. that's how you win a debate. >> chris, i don't know about that. >> you're wrong. the debate is over. i win. >> nia, you're on this program all the time. come on, is that me? >> you know, you have never interrupted someone, certainly never have interrupted me. i have to give props to jason sudden dak kiss. he...
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, in this kind of forum when he's talking directly to voters who are going to be asking the questions in the audience. >> i'm curious, amie, the way that mitt romney, when you have on that split screen and he was always looking at the president. i mean he was looking at him the whole time, the president looking down. the town hall style meeting has to be different. do you think he'll take that as if he's attacking, studying the president or is it more of reaching out to the audience of people and connecting with the voters? >> i think it's more about the what you just said, alex, the latter. i think president obama, i'll disagree with david a little bit on this one. i think president obama, he has his likability going for him. he connects with a crowd. he moves around a little better than governor romney does. i think it's going to be a good night for him on tuesday night. >> okay. always a good morning to both of you. amie, david, thank you so much. >> thanks. >> later on the path to 270 electoral votes. we're going to look at several scenarios for how the candidates could get to tha
, in this kind of forum when he's talking directly to voters who are going to be asking the questions in the audience. >> i'm curious, amie, the way that mitt romney, when you have on that split screen and he was always looking at the president. i mean he was looking at him the whole time, the president looking down. the town hall style meeting has to be different. do you think he'll take that as if he's attacking, studying the president or is it more of reaching out to the audience of...
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most people are watching, and it takes away a key talking point for governor romney. he was saying for 43 months straight, unemployment was above 8%. it's no longer something me can say. >> okay. ed, with respect to the conspiracy theories, despite jared doesn't want to give it more oxygen, just a little bit more here. mitt romney is not latched on to their rhetoric. could all of this talk damage him, though, in the long run? in some ways it's highlighting the fact it's below 8%. this number, 7.8. >> it certainly robs him of the ability to say in a campaign speech as he has since he launched his campaign, that the unemployment rate is above 8%. but as he said yesterday, most americans would agree with him on, you know, we can do better. the number still isn't good. i think everyone would agree looking at the numbers that came out yesterday that, you know, 100,000-plus is fine, but really want to create 200,000-plus. you want to see employment growth everywhere. you don't want to see hundreds of thousands of people leaving the workforce. on that, there is general agree
most people are watching, and it takes away a key talking point for governor romney. he was saying for 43 months straight, unemployment was above 8%. it's no longer something me can say. >> okay. ed, with respect to the conspiracy theories, despite jared doesn't want to give it more oxygen, just a little bit more here. mitt romney is not latched on to their rhetoric. could all of this talk damage him, though, in the long run? in some ways it's highlighting the fact it's below 8%. this...
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romney is talking about there is glen doherty. mr. doherty is the former navy s.e.a.l., one of the four americans killed in benghazi on the u.s. consulate attack in september. mr. romney told that same story about meeting mr. doherty yesterday while campaigning in iowa. >> he skied a lot, he skied in some of the places i had. we had a lot of things in common. he told me that he keeps going back to the middle east. he cares very deeply about the people there. you can imagine how i felt when i found out that he was one of the two former navy s.e.a.l.s killed in benghazi on september 11th. and it -- it touched me, obviously, as i recognized this young man that i thought was so impressive. he -- according to the reports on cnn international that i read, he was actually in a different building, in an annex, a safe place, somewhere else across town when he and his colleagues there heard that the consulate was around attack. and they went there. they didn't hunker down where they were in safety. they rushed there to go help. this is the amer
romney is talking about there is glen doherty. mr. doherty is the former navy s.e.a.l., one of the four americans killed in benghazi on the u.s. consulate attack in september. mr. romney told that same story about meeting mr. doherty yesterday while campaigning in iowa. >> he skied a lot, he skied in some of the places i had. we had a lot of things in common. he told me that he keeps going back to the middle east. he cares very deeply about the people there. you can imagine how i felt...
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and mitt romney didn't do that. >> i like how obama talked about the middle class. i personally don't know any millionaires. and there is a lot more of us, the middle class. >> reporter: the two latino women there said they were leaning toward the president, the exact group of voters he hopes will help him win this state. on the other hand, some supporters may be slipping away. >> made a lot of promises four years ago. and we've had four years to watch a lot of that not happen. >> you voted for obama last time? >> yes. i'm a lot more suspicious and guarded. >> the question i have is four years really enough to follow through on these promises. can all of president obama's promises he made four years ago really be done in four years? >> what do you think? is four years enough? >> i don't think so. >> reporter: and they all wish they'd had a fact checker standing by to sort through the flurry of claims and counter claims. is romney really not seeking a $5 trillion tax cut? will people be able to keep their health insurance under the president's plan? >> i always kind
and mitt romney didn't do that. >> i like how obama talked about the middle class. i personally don't know any millionaires. and there is a lot more of us, the middle class. >> reporter: the two latino women there said they were leaning toward the president, the exact group of voters he hopes will help him win this state. on the other hand, some supporters may be slipping away. >> made a lot of promises four years ago. and we've had four years to watch a lot of that not...
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let's watch. >> i asked you to talk to romney and ryan what would you say to them -- >> i would say -- >> that you have concerns about. >> we have a leaderless government and they lead. they can govern. this gentleman can't govern. he can't governor earn. he's doing politics day and night. >> alan simpson being alan simpson. i've covered him for decades, mark you have as well. but it's certainly gives the republicans a little bit of a talking point since alan simpson is someone the president points to as being, you know, the simpson-bowles plan that i appointed. >> if you like me to feign shocked alan simpson said something newsworthy and outrageous, i will. some say he shouldn't be in that mode on the day of the debate. that's the republicans' increase lig full-floated argument why the president should be replaced as the economy's gotten better it's harder for them to make a straight economic argument and simpson is giving voice to what you hear a lot not just the romney campaign, it's about leadership overseas, leadership at home and alan simpson says -- said in his colorful manner.
let's watch. >> i asked you to talk to romney and ryan what would you say to them -- >> i would say -- >> that you have concerns about. >> we have a leaderless government and they lead. they can govern. this gentleman can't govern. he can't governor earn. he's doing politics day and night. >> alan simpson being alan simpson. i've covered him for decades, mark you have as well. but it's certainly gives the republicans a little bit of a talking point since alan...
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mitt romney was talking about jobs in china and a factory over there. is there any connection here in this story? >> this is a second story. the story that you did a few weeks ago about the other plant, that was the story of the plant that he went to see in between 1998 and 2000 where he told the story of young women working in sweatshop conditions, and food wasn't good. they had barbed wire to keep them out. in that case there was 12 to a dorm sleeping in bunkbeds that only had plywood on them. that was mitt romney's first foray into china. on that secret tape, that's the plant he's talking about that he went over there to buy. then in addition to that, ed, when he talks abo
mitt romney was talking about jobs in china and a factory over there. is there any connection here in this story? >> this is a second story. the story that you did a few weeks ago about the other plant, that was the story of the plant that he went to see in between 1998 and 2000 where he told the story of young women working in sweatshop conditions, and food wasn't good. they had barbed wire to keep them out. in that case there was 12 to a dorm sleeping in bunkbeds that only had plywood...
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all of us heard candidate romney talk about a 20% cut in all tax rates, a 20% cut. you know? we're swimming in debt. you know, so he says now, well that's not really a 20% cut but a revenue neutral tax. doesn't make sense and hard to pin down a guy that doesn't have core beliefs. >> david, what a lot of voters do, undecided voters, they say, well, who am i supposed to believe here? >> yeah, no. that's clearly what the debate did and i would suggest this is one of the reasons why you see governor romney improve in terms of polls is got the discussion back on the economy and the central issues of taxes and seeing clearly both sides have a different view in terms of what the governor proposing. watching that play out and ultimately i would suggest this is a good conversation for governor romney to be involved in. >> let me just make the point that, you know, governor romney pays a 14% income tax rate which is less than most working families pay in this country and ought to be the first question to him. if we all believe and i think we should that we need to reform the tax code t
all of us heard candidate romney talk about a 20% cut in all tax rates, a 20% cut. you know? we're swimming in debt. you know, so he says now, well that's not really a 20% cut but a revenue neutral tax. doesn't make sense and hard to pin down a guy that doesn't have core beliefs. >> david, what a lot of voters do, undecided voters, they say, well, who am i supposed to believe here? >> yeah, no. that's clearly what the debate did and i would suggest this is one of the reasons why you...
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unemployment above 8% has been a favorite talking point for mitt romney and that talking point on friday went kaput. and the country has now had the best election year improvement in the unemployment numbers since ronald reagan ran for reelection in 1984. remember the morning in america thing, that's what it was about. so mitt romney may have won the debate, but president obama won the post debate. at least it seemed that way for these last few days. then today back down to earth for democrats. we started getting in the first solid round of polling that reflected the results of the debate. and however, well the obama campaign did in managing the post debate spin and the post debate campaigning, the poll numbers clearly have now shifted in mitt romney's favor. in the new national poll out from the pew research center, governor romney is now tied with the president. romney trailed in this survey by 9 points before the debate. so that's a big shift toward mitt romney and away from barack obama in that poll. like wise in the new gallup poll, mr. romney polled even with the president after th
unemployment above 8% has been a favorite talking point for mitt romney and that talking point on friday went kaput. and the country has now had the best election year improvement in the unemployment numbers since ronald reagan ran for reelection in 1984. remember the morning in america thing, that's what it was about. so mitt romney may have won the debate, but president obama won the post debate. at least it seemed that way for these last few days. then today back down to earth for democrats....
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the big bird line is effective against romney if you put it in the context you put it in. that it's 1/100th of 1% of the budget. or six hours of pentagon spending. but the fact that we're focusing on that underscores the things that weren't picked up in what romney said. in preparing for this show, i notice the something i hadn't noticed before. romney said in the debate, i'm not going to reduce the share of taxes paid by high-income people. that's exactly what george w. bush said in the 2000 debate. you can cut rich people's taxes by a whole lot of money and still have them pay the same share of the total. so that's what he was really saying. he said he's going to cut everybody's taxes by 20%. and then he said in the debate, we're not going to have tax cuts that add to the deficit. if this is math, it's math on meth. it just doesn't add up at all. and i think that's the issue that has to be raised over and over again. and then big bird is really a good illustration of how, in addition to the tax cuts and military spending, all he talks about is big bird and has to be turn
the big bird line is effective against romney if you put it in the context you put it in. that it's 1/100th of 1% of the budget. or six hours of pentagon spending. but the fact that we're focusing on that underscores the things that weren't picked up in what romney said. in preparing for this show, i notice the something i hadn't noticed before. romney said in the debate, i'm not going to reduce the share of taxes paid by high-income people. that's exactly what george w. bush said in the 2000...
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look, for three weeks, mitt romney got hammered from the democratic debate through the talk about the 47%, his taxes, and the like. and with a bad debate performance. if the president won the first presidential debate, clearly, i think the presidential race would have been all but over. but the debate has changed the narrative, the discussion, and moved some poll numbers, and i grant you, this is not a dramatic change, but it is an important change though it's small, i think the race is very, very competitive once again. >> jonathan capehart, i want to bring you in on this. karl rove writing in the "wall street journal" today, how biggen big biggen an impact did mitt romney's debate have. huge, romney not only won the night but changed the arc of the election and perhaps its outcome. what do you make of that? look at skeptical face. >> sure, mitt romney had a fantastic night in the debate last week. he got a bounce out of. but as richard and i were talking about during the break that bounce is disappearing. i mean as stephanie cutter said in the clip that you showed the race is back t
look, for three weeks, mitt romney got hammered from the democratic debate through the talk about the 47%, his taxes, and the like. and with a bad debate performance. if the president won the first presidential debate, clearly, i think the presidential race would have been all but over. but the debate has changed the narrative, the discussion, and moved some poll numbers, and i grant you, this is not a dramatic change, but it is an important change though it's small, i think the race is very,...
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are we talking biden fire? >> i think he'll have biden type fire. >> okay. >> but i think he will at least try to contest some of the points that romney puts across, and try to define just who romney is. we have the many different faces he puts out there every election. >> so kevin has come up with a new concept of obama fire. it will be a first if we see it. i think the headline with all to discuss the voters will have the day after election, hey, folks, it's time to celebrate. less than three weeks to go when this is over. >> bob franken, i enjoy you so. brain trust on this saturday, bob franken, kevin baker, jennifer rubin. many thanks to all thee of you. and thanks to you at home as well for spending some of your saturday with us. we enjoyed it so much. we've decided that we will be back here again tomorrow afternoon. we'll start it at 3:00 eastern, right after "meet the press," of course, where moderator david gregory will be talking politics with a panel of experts. and then he'll spend some time talking
are we talking biden fire? >> i think he'll have biden type fire. >> okay. >> but i think he will at least try to contest some of the points that romney puts across, and try to define just who romney is. we have the many different faces he puts out there every election. >> so kevin has come up with a new concept of obama fire. it will be a first if we see it. i think the headline with all to discuss the voters will have the day after election, hey, folks, it's time to...
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all talk today is focused on mitt romney's surge after last week's presidential debate. today, romney had a one-point lead in the real clear politics poll and pundits throwing suggestions in the ring of what president obama needs to do next week at the debate. here's a view of the past and the future. >> i had a different reaction to that first debate than a lot of people did. i mean, i saw -- i thought, wow. here's old moderate mitt. where you been, boy? i missed you all these last two years. now, the problem with this deal is the deal was made by severe conservative mitt. that was how he described himself for two whole years. until three or four days before the debate they got together and said, hey man, this ship is sinking faster than the "titanic." just show up with a sunny face and say, i didn't say all that stuff i said the last two years. i don't have that tax plan i had for two years. you going to believe me or your lying eyes here? come on. what are you doing? and if i eve been the president, i might have said, i hate to get in the way of this. i miss you. >> w
all talk today is focused on mitt romney's surge after last week's presidential debate. today, romney had a one-point lead in the real clear politics poll and pundits throwing suggestions in the ring of what president obama needs to do next week at the debate. here's a view of the past and the future. >> i had a different reaction to that first debate than a lot of people did. i mean, i saw -- i thought, wow. here's old moderate mitt. where you been, boy? i missed you all these last two...
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so this is why we have romney talking. it's called putting jobs first, which is, of course, a play on the old clinton/gore putting people first. >> steve, we talked a week ago at this time the morning after the debate that it would only matter if it meant something beyond one night. it mattered what the romney campaign did with it. how has the romney campaign done now a full week later? >> well, they've had tremendous momentum off of that debate over the last week. i think that's one of the most effective ads that they've put out during the entirety of the campaign. one of the things you hear democrats now saying is you've got to go after romney. you've got to call him a liar. you've got to be tougher. you've got to demagogue them, you've got to hit them. and when you see mitt romney talk, that becomes all the more difficult to do. and i think romney's success has been compounded by a lot of mistakes that have been made on the democratic side over the course of the last week. so he's in the best week of his campaign. >> an
so this is why we have romney talking. it's called putting jobs first, which is, of course, a play on the old clinton/gore putting people first. >> steve, we talked a week ago at this time the morning after the debate that it would only matter if it meant something beyond one night. it mattered what the romney campaign did with it. how has the romney campaign done now a full week later? >> well, they've had tremendous momentum off of that debate over the last week. i think that's...
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stop talking about how you care about people. show me something. >> vice president biden tried to portray the democratic ticket as the defenders of the middle class. joining me now on behalf of the romney/ryan campaign, republican senator ron johnson. good morning. >> good morning, chuck. >> i want to see if you agreed with this lead in politico. welcome to the joe biden show, paul ryan. the well-behaved 42-year-old seemed look i can a spectator as the volume ubl vice president delivered a forceful, bordering bombastic counterattack against a surging gop ticket during thursday's vice presidential debate. >> one thing was the rude performance by vice president. >> you thought it was rude? >> it was rude. and paul was nice and polite. it was paul. the vice president didn't have a plan as the president doesn't have a plan. both vice president biden and president obama have a real problem. they have empty trhetoric. for vice president biden, it was a tactic to appeal to their base, the occupy wall street crowd because he was trying t
stop talking about how you care about people. show me something. >> vice president biden tried to portray the democratic ticket as the defenders of the middle class. joining me now on behalf of the romney/ryan campaign, republican senator ron johnson. good morning. >> good morning, chuck. >> i want to see if you agreed with this lead in politico. welcome to the joe biden show, paul ryan. the well-behaved 42-year-old seemed look i can a spectator as the volume ubl vice...
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talking to all his rich friends, that he has content, disrespect for people, anybody who has any -- relies on government in any way, medicare, social security, veterans benefits, we're talking about active military. the disrespect that he showed is something that i think all voters ought to take with them to the voting booth. >> michelle, quickly, let me ask you -- i started with citing one poll has the president up, another romney up. what do you think 29 days out? >> serve kind of waiting for the shoe to drop. the president had a bad debate but then the job numbers came back really well. the media narrative is waiting to see what the next big thing is going to be. maybe it's going to be joe biden. we don't know. >> january schakowsky, michelle cottle, thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >>> the president has been fired up for days and today we know exactly why. good luck, governor. >> we put two wars and tax cuts on a credit card and now governor romney wants another $5 trillion in tax cuts that he can't pay for? not if i've got anything to say about it. >>> plus, a tea party
talking to all his rich friends, that he has content, disrespect for people, anybody who has any -- relies on government in any way, medicare, social security, veterans benefits, we're talking about active military. the disrespect that he showed is something that i think all voters ought to take with them to the voting booth. >> michelle, quickly, let me ask you -- i started with citing one poll has the president up, another romney up. what do you think 29 days out? >> serve kind of...
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this is not what i'm talking about. what we do in science and critical thinking, you have a claim, an assertion. in this case, the earth is 6,000 years old or 10,000 years old. i can show any reasonable right that is not right. that's wrong. that's a wrong claim and it's off by a factor of a million. furthermore, evolution is fact. we can prove evolution to you. >> we're going to -- >> if you want to deny that stuff, you're setting aside what make hughes mans so good. >> we're going to leave it there. >> thank you. >> bill nye, say this and i mean this from the bottom of my heart. this has been the most educational four minutes in cable news this week. i appreciate that. thank you so much. >> while you're voting, everybody, take into account climate change. >> that's a separate segment. thank you, bill. do appreciate you as always. bill nye, the science giant coming up the romney campaign love this headline from the buckeye state. are we covering it? we'll show you the headline. we'll tell you whether it will translate
this is not what i'm talking about. what we do in science and critical thinking, you have a claim, an assertion. in this case, the earth is 6,000 years old or 10,000 years old. i can show any reasonable right that is not right. that's wrong. that's a wrong claim and it's off by a factor of a million. furthermore, evolution is fact. we can prove evolution to you. >> we're going to -- >> if you want to deny that stuff, you're setting aside what make hughes mans so good. >> we're...
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romney and mr. ryan going in to tonight's debate, trying to tell voters what they say on television isn't what they're saying in other places. if that's effective, that will certainly hamper the romney effort to come back. it's an important measure, but not necessarily the most important. most importantly, the economy that really is very important. >> and we'll see how sole lid t solid the gains are after the next round of polls. suffolk university who also does rounds of polling, they decided to stop polling in virginia and florida because they already believe they're leaning towards romney. what do you make of that? >> i don't talk about other polls, but we're still polling in the states that we had planned on polling all along and virginia and florida are those states. >> and you'll keep on going. >> we expect to keep on going, yes. >> peter brown, thank you so much for joining us today. >>> may the force be with you. time now for the polysci war. here's what he told the young turks. he's very wi
romney and mr. ryan going in to tonight's debate, trying to tell voters what they say on television isn't what they're saying in other places. if that's effective, that will certainly hamper the romney effort to come back. it's an important measure, but not necessarily the most important. most importantly, the economy that really is very important. >> and we'll see how sole lid t solid the gains are after the next round of polls. suffolk university who also does rounds of polling, they...
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you're talking about someone's mom or someone's dad. i think mitt romney ought to know that. in some of the states, like north carolina and florida and ohio, there are enough latino and asian voters to exceed the margin of victory. using illegal alien can alienate. >> we never got to the alien part of that construction, but it's general consensus. we have total table consensus on that. brook gladstone. >> you should know about a 2006 study done about democrats and republicans and how they reason. when faced with the hypocrisy or contradictory statements of their own candidates and then given a reason to sort of think their way out of it problem, what they -- no parts of their reasoning part of their brain lit up in any unusual way. the other parts lit up incredib incredibly. once they were done, talking themselves into the idea that their candidate was okay, they got a super shot of dopamine. so you should know that -- we are wired to lie to ourselves and as the election proceeds, keep that in mind. >> these are mris when you go in the tunnel and they scan your brain with the
you're talking about someone's mom or someone's dad. i think mitt romney ought to know that. in some of the states, like north carolina and florida and ohio, there are enough latino and asian voters to exceed the margin of victory. using illegal alien can alienate. >> we never got to the alien part of that construction, but it's general consensus. we have total table consensus on that. brook gladstone. >> you should know about a 2006 study done about democrats and republicans and...
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the key thing to say, though, for governor romney and goes to something the general was talking about, we're war weary in this country. he may try to sound muscular and tough but america said we don't want saber rattling but engage differently in the world with president obama and i think what i'll listen for and the democrats listen for and the american people to listen for what's the cost of these ideas that he may -- this rhetoric to throw out? how many american troops is that? how much money to cost the country, not spent here at home. how many lives are we talking about? are we prepared to make those sacrifices for a foreign policy that mitt romney may or may not propose? >> joel, from your state perspective, karen talking about words do matter srks that a big part of today's foreign policy address, avoiding land mines, pitfalls in his wording? >> words do matter and the international community is confused by governor romney and the foreign policy. the shifting back and forth on issues such as libya, to egypt. very confusing for foreign leaders to gauge where he is and the americ
the key thing to say, though, for governor romney and goes to something the general was talking about, we're war weary in this country. he may try to sound muscular and tough but america said we don't want saber rattling but engage differently in the world with president obama and i think what i'll listen for and the democrats listen for and the american people to listen for what's the cost of these ideas that he may -- this rhetoric to throw out? how many american troops is that? how much...
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mitt romney talked about iran not getting a nuclear weapon capability. he's suggesting he would draw the quote unquote red line somewhere south of that. it does suggest that a slightly less tolerance for iran getting close to nuclear weapons. >> i have to admit it sounded like we weren't doing much, we meaning the united states right now, the obama administration. we've, i think, imposed extremely stiff sanctions that appear, according to informations coming out of iran, even from the value of the currency are working. >> that was an area i thought he was unfair. on the president's policy on sanctions are quite extraordinary and it's more than skeptics would've thought. i've written several books and edited them. we have gone farther with international sanctions than anybody thought possible. and they're kicking in. they're kicking in economically, and it's been falling like a rock. no pun intended. what we don't know, what impact that will have on the iranian nuclear program. >> what else can be done? i agree with mitt romney, i'm glad it's a center pie
mitt romney talked about iran not getting a nuclear weapon capability. he's suggesting he would draw the quote unquote red line somewhere south of that. it does suggest that a slightly less tolerance for iran getting close to nuclear weapons. >> i have to admit it sounded like we weren't doing much, we meaning the united states right now, the obama administration. we've, i think, imposed extremely stiff sanctions that appear, according to informations coming out of iran, even from the...
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romney is down here. when he talks, do not look at him, look at the audience. when he is talking, look at the audience. do not engage him, because it puts you guys on on the same level. did anybody ever say anything like that? was there any strategic point? it did make sense in hindsight, but it backfired. >> then the president came to have a discussion with the american people and answer questions about where we've been and more importantly where we need to go to continue to strengthen this economy. but, again, i think the president was entirely taken aback, as many of us were, watching somebody like mitt romney say something like i don't have a $5 trillion tax cut. i don't pledge to raise or cut taxes on the wealthy in this country. i love teachers. you know, i think we should have more of them. a whopolicy positions that disappeared instantaneously on that stage. i have no doubt, though, that president obama and vice president biden understand now that we're dealing with a guy that looks a lot like mndz romney and sounds like mitt romney, but we have mitt ro
romney is down here. when he talks, do not look at him, look at the audience. when he is talking, look at the audience. do not engage him, because it puts you guys on on the same level. did anybody ever say anything like that? was there any strategic point? it did make sense in hindsight, but it backfired. >> then the president came to have a discussion with the american people and answer questions about where we've been and more importantly where we need to go to continue to strengthen...
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in their weekly address, republicans also talking about the economy. it was delivered by oklahoma congressional candidate mark wayne mullet. >> he gets it. republican majority in the house has passed several bipartisan common sense proposals to address regulation that hurts jobs. >>> meanwhile police in colorado are investigating a shooting at president obama's denver campaign office. officials say people were inside when a shot was fired through the office window flid afternoon, fortunately no one was hurt. police say they have a description of what they're calling at this point a vehicle of interest. more on all of these hours throughout the next three hours right here on msnbc. >>> as we just mentioned, mitt romney packing his schedule tight today in ohio. you're looking at live pictures from portsmouth, romney's first stop before heading to another rally in lebanon, ohio, later this afternoon. our peter alexander continues his travels with the romney campaign. he joins us live now. we understand the romney campaign is seeing much larger crowds. is
in their weekly address, republicans also talking about the economy. it was delivered by oklahoma congressional candidate mark wayne mullet. >> he gets it. republican majority in the house has passed several bipartisan common sense proposals to address regulation that hurts jobs. >>> meanwhile police in colorado are investigating a shooting at president obama's denver campaign office. officials say people were inside when a shot was fired through the office window flid afternoon,...
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that compares to 35 ohio offices for romney. but the romney campaign bolstered by the debate is now invading obama territory. they are campaigning in counties where president obama won by double digits in 2008. here to talk about the ground game strategy is msnbc political analyst and former dnc communications director karen finney. republican strategist and former huckabee campaign manager chip saltzman. >> good morning. >> mitt romney's political director says they are now playing on the obama side of the 50 yard line. is had a a smart strategy? >> yeah, i think it is. simply because if you can take counties where he won by 12%, 13%, knock that down to 8%, that's a big win for mitt romney. and he's going to try to use the momentum he has from the debates to kind of push the envelope on this. as we know the last 30 days, it is all about momentum, where the enthusiasm is at, excitement is at. we have with mitt romney. >> karen, he does make a point. barack obama has this big advantage in field offices. not just in ohio but in a
that compares to 35 ohio offices for romney. but the romney campaign bolstered by the debate is now invading obama territory. they are campaigning in counties where president obama won by double digits in 2008. here to talk about the ground game strategy is msnbc political analyst and former dnc communications director karen finney. republican strategist and former huckabee campaign manager chip saltzman. >> good morning. >> mitt romney's political director says they are now playing...
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to make it less politicized, and certainly the romney team rightly is talking about this. it's amazing tht front and center. >> to that same end, if what republicans are saying is true that the obama officials were trickling out the bad news then respect they politicizing the story as well? >> this is a ridiculous story. i like michael steele a great deal. i think he's actually sort of a democrat. >> please. >> but the truth is out -- on social issues. the truth is this is equivalent to spreading the rumor that george bush knew about 9/11 before it happened. it's a ridiculous story. the republicans are going after the president of being unpatriotic. this president needs support on the ber national and national tragedy. and this is a disgrace for the republican party to do this. >> don't you think there is merit into saying had the white house been forthcoming, or do you believe honestly what the white house put out there is honestly what they knew. >> that is what they need. >> the white house and the state department. >> i've been briefed by very senior officials on this
to make it less politicized, and certainly the romney team rightly is talking about this. it's amazing tht front and center. >> to that same end, if what republicans are saying is true that the obama officials were trickling out the bad news then respect they politicizing the story as well? >> this is a ridiculous story. i like michael steele a great deal. i think he's actually sort of a democrat. >> please. >> but the truth is out -- on social issues. the truth is this...
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and romney and the romney campaign has talked about increasing the eligibility age, and they've talked about means testing as well. they're not making it conditional. >> and on the other side, you know, democrats are saying we're not going to talk about raising the retirement age of social security or medicare until you guys say you're going to raise taxes. and tom, you make a great point. they are two separate issues. and they're two separate issues because even if you raise taxes to 90% on the rich, social security and medicare are still going under. republicans, on the other side -- it is about cutting -- the republicans on the other side won't talk about raising taxes. and so we have this standoff. and everybody's staring at each other, and nobody will come on tv and tell the truth. we've got to do everything. >> it's that standoff and those issues that so frustrate the country. a lot of people don't want to give up anything they've got right now, and for good reason in some instances because of their income levels and the kind of conditions in which they live. but others are willi
and romney and the romney campaign has talked about increasing the eligibility age, and they've talked about means testing as well. they're not making it conditional. >> and on the other side, you know, democrats are saying we're not going to talk about raising the retirement age of social security or medicare until you guys say you're going to raise taxes. and tom, you make a great point. they are two separate issues. and they're two separate issues because even if you raise taxes to 90%...
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. >> when we come back, we're going to talk more about this. we know there's a problem of biden bromance. i want to know whether or not paul ryan is willing to go hard in for mitt romney. i'm going to gargle during the break. or get the yard ready for cool an energy weather?n to size? the answer? a lot less. the great american fix-up is going on now... ...with new projects every week and big savings every day. so you can do what needs to be done. today. more saving. more doing. that's the power of the home depot. right now, owens corning ecotouch attik insulation is only $11.87 a roll. and i took on all the bigger, tougher ones. but with mr. clean's new select-a-size magic eraser, he can take on any size job. at least we don't go near rex's mobile home as often. what are you, scared? [ dog barks ] aah! oh! [ male announcer ] new mr. clean select-a-size magic eraser. check out the latest collection of snacks from lean cuisine. creamy spinach artichoke dip, crispy garlic chicken spring rolls. they're this season's must-have accessory. lean cuisin
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. >> what mitt romney is doing is something i haven't heard a single figure ever do, which is endorse the current health care status quo. and you can talk to hospital administrators, the folks that run catholic charities, people in medicaid. the current status quo is where people show up in emergency rooms and it's the least efficient, most human and expensive way of delivering health care. that's the status quo that everyone agrees is broken that we should do away with and, in fact, was one of the main drivers. >> exactly. it's agreed to by both parties. >> no one says that it's a great system, people wait to get care until the emergency room. >> aside from services with emergency rooms where you could sit there forever and it's an amazing show of how detached he is of the average life of an american. but let me go back to you, krystal, because we talked about his opponent, mr. ryan. biden has always been able to sell himself as a president who can relate to the middle class. listen to him doing the 2008 debate. >> look, i understand what it's like to be a single parent. when my wife
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let's take a look before we talk about you guys. let's take a look at your superpac's first video with actress rosie perez on mitt romney and latinos. >> that, you probably know, was the government of michigan, head of a car company, but he was born in mexico. had he been born of mexican parents, i'd have a better shot at winning this. >> actually, mitt, that is so true. the advantage is obvious. think of all of our hispanic american presidents from jorge washington, to jorge bush. fortunately, for you, mitt, you were cursed with the hard knock life of growing up as the son of a wealthy governor and auto executive? but the truth is, the reason why latinos aren't voting for you is because your policies suck. being latino wouldn't win you the election. but saying jokingly that you wish you were might actually lose it for you. >> whoa. that's tough stuff. mick, we haven't had you on before. liz has been here before. i want you first. that's kind of a hard-edged shot. that's a shot at romney. i mean, his parents weren't in mexico becaus
let's take a look before we talk about you guys. let's take a look at your superpac's first video with actress rosie perez on mitt romney and latinos. >> that, you probably know, was the government of michigan, head of a car company, but he was born in mexico. had he been born of mexican parents, i'd have a better shot at winning this. >> actually, mitt, that is so true. the advantage is obvious. think of all of our hispanic american presidents from jorge washington, to jorge bush....
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because as you remember last week the obama campaign was talking about mitt romney's performance. and when you're doing that it tends to be an indicator that that side knows that they lost. >> as we look ahead to the town hall, what did joe biden do whether substantive or stylistic that president obama should adopt? >> well, i think that joe biden re-energized the debate and the base of the party. a lot of people wanted to jump ship were panicking. he went out and really got everyone excited again. the president needs to step up in the next debate and do his job. remember, this is the guy who told hillary clinton that you're -- he can really step it up when he chooses to step it up. he need to get a good night's sleep, don't worry about the altitude and really get in there. >> that is so random. really? that's just really a stretch on that one. anyway, so susan, you can expect the president to be a lot tougher this time around, i know. how should mitt romney approach this debate? do you think he's going to be spending a lot of timan inning openings left by paul ryan? >> i don't th
because as you remember last week the obama campaign was talking about mitt romney's performance. and when you're doing that it tends to be an indicator that that side knows that they lost. >> as we look ahead to the town hall, what did joe biden do whether substantive or stylistic that president obama should adopt? >> well, i think that joe biden re-energized the debate and the base of the party. a lot of people wanted to jump ship were panicking. he went out and really got...
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we'll talk with the president on the council of foreign relations in just a minute. and we'll huddle around the water cooler where big bird remains center stage in this presidential campaign thanks to president obama's campaign. we'll show you their new ad when we come back. >>> we told you after being down almost 20 pins with women just a month ago, mitt romney has effectively closed the gender gap according to one poll. romney stands even with the president among female voters in the latest pugh survey. should romney end up getting more of the female vote than the president does in the general, he'd be the first republican to do that in 24 years. want to sound smart today, tell your friends the last republican presidential candidate to win the female vote, george h.w. bush. they favored him over michael dukakis by a single percentage point that day. the number of female voters xeeted every male voter in every presidential election since 1964. >>> all right, let's huddle up around the water cooler to take a crack at the conspiracy theories that were around after the
we'll talk with the president on the council of foreign relations in just a minute. and we'll huddle around the water cooler where big bird remains center stage in this presidential campaign thanks to president obama's campaign. we'll show you their new ad when we come back. >>> we told you after being down almost 20 pins with women just a month ago, mitt romney has effectively closed the gender gap according to one poll. romney stands even with the president among female voters in the...
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and i think when romney and ryan have talked about afghanistan, they've gotten themselves in trouble because they cannot say they want to stay longer. and then the other response, listen to the generals. what if you -- what if you disagree with the generals? are they going to listen to the generals if they want to stay for another ten years? that's unclear. >> the other thing going back to the stylistic element of that question in the debate, i think it's because we didn't actually have a foreign policy debate. we had a debate about u.s. military policy and interceptions in a free country. >> that's a good point. >> interviewed and not interviewed. >> climate change, mexico. >> china. >> brazil, china, india. any of those things. >> i want to hear more from you on foreign policy after we take a quick break. and of battery more emergency workers trust in their maglites: duracell. one reason: duralock power preserve. it locks in power for up to 10 years in storage. guaranteed. so, whether it's 10 years' of life's sunny days... or... the occasional stormy one... trust goes a long way. d
and i think when romney and ryan have talked about afghanistan, they've gotten themselves in trouble because they cannot say they want to stay longer. and then the other response, listen to the generals. what if you -- what if you disagree with the generals? are they going to listen to the generals if they want to stay for another ten years? that's unclear. >> the other thing going back to the stylistic element of that question in the debate, i think it's because we didn't actually have a...
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changes we're talking about for younger people like myself is don't increase the benefits for wealthy people as fast as anybody else, slowly raise the retirement age over time. >> look, these guys haven't been big on medicare from the beginning. their party has not been big on medicare from the beginning and they've always been about social security, as little as you can do. folks, use your common sense. who do you trust on this? >> and that is a heck of a question, looking square into that television screen. we know about 5% of the people out there, ann, identify themselves as undecided. who was most effective, particularly on this medicare debate? >> well, look, it presented a very stark choice. i think people who are paying attention to the election probably already knew, which is if you like the system the way it is, then the democratic tick set probably more in line with your thinking and if you want change, whether because you think the system is broken or you think it's not allocated appropriately, then the republican ticket is for you. so i think you saw right there that encap
changes we're talking about for younger people like myself is don't increase the benefits for wealthy people as fast as anybody else, slowly raise the retirement age over time. >> look, these guys haven't been big on medicare from the beginning. their party has not been big on medicare from the beginning and they've always been about social security, as little as you can do. folks, use your common sense. who do you trust on this? >> and that is a heck of a question, looking square...